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Superfreakonomics is the sequel to Freakonomics. Chapter 5 is on climate change. You can google it to find out that dozens of people from Krugman to the Nature Climate Blog to Realclimate have weighed on in how wrong chapter 5 is. A quick summary: Levitt & Dubner are basically claiming that geoengineering by shooting sulfur into the stratosphere is the quick easy fix to global warming, so why aren't we doing that instead of trying the expensive option of reducing CO2 emissions? While there are quite a number of factual errors in their chapter, the counter is basically several-fold: 1) stratospheric sulfate cooling will not perfectly counter all the effects of CO2 warming. 2) stratospheric sulfates have other effects other than just cooling. 3) if we keep emitting CO2, then we'd have to keep increasing the sulfate injections... and if we then ever _stopped_ the sulfate injections, we'd get decades of warming happening in a year - it would be catastrophic. 4) CO2 has other effects than just warming: eg, ocean acidification.

Well, Levitt apparently finally got around to responding to this last point on an interview on the Diane Rehm show (and it is odd that he didn't address it in his chapter, given that one of his main sources for the geoengineering information was Ken Caldeira, an acidification expert), and stated:

"Of course, ocean acidification is an important issue. Now, there are ways to deal with ocean acidification, right, it's actually, that's actually, we know exactly how to un-acidifiy the oceans, is to pour a bunch of base into it, so, so if that turns out to be an incredibly big problem, then we can deal with that."

I don't know about anyone else, but... I would think that the average 3rd grader could figure out that this could be a problem. After all, we're basically injecting several gigatons (that's several billion metric tons, equal to, well, the weight of all the coal and oil and natural gas that we burn every year) of CO2 (and therefore, a weak acid) into the oceans. In order to neutralize that, we'd presumably need several gigatons of some kind of base. Now, aside from the difficulties of producing several gigatons of base and scattering it in the oceans, one might think that there could possibly be some side effects from this? Of course, I bet Levitt could find a solution to that too. Perhaps terraforming Mars and moving us all there?

I have two pieces of homework for Mr. Levitt:
1) Read classic children's songs: http://www.poppyfields.net/poppy/songs/oldwoman.html
2) Watch Futurama: http://www.tvtdb.com/futurama/transcripts/5x01.php "Thus solving the problem once and for all!"

Date: 2009-10-30 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com
Freakonomics was sorta stunt economics - flashy, but empty. Sounds like they've become even less substantial in the new one. Bleh.

Besides, everyone knows what happens if you pour acid and base into the ocean. It'll be like putting acid and base into your science fair volcano. TSUNAMI!

Date: 2009-10-30 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnerf.livejournal.com
Wasn't there a Simpsons episode where they fixed global warming by dropping a giant ice cube into the ocean?

Date: 2009-10-30 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medyani.livejournal.com
Oh I love it when you take on self-important morons!

Date: 2009-10-31 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirisutogomen.livejournal.com
Steve Levitt is many things, but none of them is moron.

Date: 2009-10-31 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medyani.livejournal.com
Moron= "a stupid person."

In the face of strong evidence, and the opinions of many who are more learned on the subject than himself, he nevertheless continues to insist that he is right. Stupid or moron is a nice word for it.

Date: 2009-10-31 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirisutogomen.livejournal.com
I am aware of the meaning of the word "moron". If you really need that desperately to condescend to strangers, I suggest that you do it with more subtlety.

"Stupid" or "moron" are not nice words for anything.

Date: 2009-10-31 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medyani.livejournal.com
Was trying to give Marcus props with the first comment. And explain why I did not think it was an excessive comment. Best of luck to you.

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