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marcusmarcusrc ([personal profile] marcusmarcusrc) wrote2006-06-22 01:28 pm

Climate Report of the Week

The National Academy of Sciences released a report today on temperature reconstructions of the last 2000 years.

Highlights: The last 25 years of temperature are 95% likely to have been the warmest such period in the past 400 years, 70% likely to have been the warmest in the past 1000, and plausibly likely to have been the warmest in the last 2000. (Note: the data isn't good enough to do good statistics, so these likelihoods are basically the best guesses of the committee, but also note that the NAS tends traditionally to be fairly conservative about their statements)

In related news, I was asked by a friend to give a climate change presentation at her church group. Unfortunately, someone else at the group decided that there needed to be "two sides" to the argument (I will point out that I consider myself to be very centrist scientifically on the issue), and so invited Dr. Soon from Harvard to speak. Soon is an astrophysicist and well known skeptic whose publications in the climate change area have been ravaged in the literature. He has 2 contentions that have been highly criticized: one is a claim that the "20th century is probably not the warmest ... of the past millenium" (note the contrast with the NAS conclusion), and the other is that nearly all of the past century's variability can be explained by solar variation as long as you assume that a watt/m^2 of UV light has much more impact than a watt/m^2 of any other wavelength, even though there really aren't good theoretical reasons to believe that, among other statistical issues with this work.

Key phrases used about Soon's work: "straw man" arguments, "ill-conceived, largely subjective approaches", "several [claims] so at variance with the accepted science that they deserve special attention", and in one instance 5 editors resigned in protest at one journal when a flawed paper of his was published despite critical peer review.

In any case, on the advice of a senior scientist in my group, I decided that I would not give a talk at the same time as Dr. Soon, so instead it looks like I'll give my talk one day and he'll give his talk the next. Mmm, climate politics.

Edit: Changed "Prof" to "Dr." to accurately reflect Soon's status.

Ick!

[identity profile] ringrose.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Any way to switch so he's first?

If he uses questionable arguments, it will be much harder for him to tailor those to your talk if you talk _after_ him.

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[identity profile] marcusmarcusrc.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I hope he's not going to be _at_ my talk, so hopefully that will limit the amount of tailoring he can do. (Plus, he's a Harvard professor, he should really have better things to do with his time than adapt talks to specific occasions? I'm kind of surprised that he even volunteered for this on short notice...)

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[identity profile] astra-nomer.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Soon is NOT a Harvard professor. He's got some kind of soft money position at the CfA. I give you three guesses to figure out what his source of funding is.

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[identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)

Space Aliens?

North Korea?

Damn, I'm drawing a blank here!

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[identity profile] astra-nomer.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hint: they have a lot of money and have a vested interest disproving global warming.

Though you know, space aliens wouldn't surprise me.

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[identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)

I only have one more guess, so I'd better make it good...



killer bees?

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[identity profile] astra-nomer.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoa, killer bees have money and are using their super powers to subvert science?!?

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[identity profile] ilhander.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ALL the time.
Honey: Cash crop.
Heard anything about the killer bees coming to slay us all lately? There it is, then.

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[identity profile] marcusmarcusrc.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, isn't the killer bee northward migration temperature limited? So they would totally approve of global warming! It all fits!

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[identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)

Exactly! That's what I'm saying. And I've found out more, you won't believe that Bzzz bzz bzzzzzz bzz zzzzzz bzzzzz bz bz BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

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[identity profile] marcusmarcusrc.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Though given that Exxon-Mobil has given my research group a lot of money over the years, I have to be careful about casting the "funding" stone at other people.

(I think API funding might be beyond the pale, though)

[identity profile] astra-nomer.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this the same Dr. Soon who would come to the graduate research fora late, slip in the back, grab a six-pack, and slip right back out? Who I once saw going through leftover pizza from a grad student lunch and walk off with an entire boxful?

Let's just say that I don't think much of someone who scavenges off of grad students, who already fulfill the role of scavengers in the great food chain of academia.

[identity profile] marcusmarcusrc.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, right, you would have been in the same department as him! Heh. Wow. The more I hear about this person, the more I want to never have to meet him.

[identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)

Wow, that's really pathetic. That's like being a flea on a jackal.

For every occasion...

[identity profile] rifmeister.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=516

Also, "ill-conceived" is one of my favorite insults.

[identity profile] hannka.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Guess what. I was hanging out at my friend's apartment on St. Paul St. today and I thought, hmmm, ET is somewhere around here, let's go find it and poke my head in. So I walked along St. Paul, thinking, how in the world am I going to find this house, when I see a Saferide! And I start following Saferide until it stops in front of a yellow house, and on the pavement, sure enough, is a carving that shows me that I'm in the right place. So I poke my head in, and Kayla gives me a tour of the house. Pretty neat, though I personally like Fenway better, as it suits my character, but ET was quite nice too. And your picture's on the wall :)

[identity profile] marcusmarcusrc.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. ET is a neat place. Fenway is a great place too. And they're different, and that is cool. Diversity and choice are good.

[identity profile] puffy-wuffy.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoo! Smart move on the timing of talks. Do us proud, marcusmarcusrc!

Sadly, scientists are mostly paid to be convincing, they are not paid to be correct. *sigh*